Running TextPad with Wine (under Red Hat 8.0 Linux)
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Chris C.
Running TextPad with Wine (under Red Hat 8.0 Linux)
When I switched my OS (dual boot - Linux & Windows), I found out that there's no TextPad available for Linux. TextPad support team suggested that I could use Wine to run TextPad under Linux. I have not been able to run TextPad with Wine yet even though I was able to run notepad.exe, sol.exe which are useless. I've tried running TextPad already installed on my /dev/hda1 (Wine has an access to it) - it seems Wine could start up TextPad but I could not do much with it - and also running TextPad setup (two of them actually, the one was the latest one which requires reboot and the other was an old one I got from my friends, he's got that from Java book CD - Core Java). Running both setups produced the same result. I think I am getting the same error message (who knows what's behind that error message?), saying ikernel.exe error. I'd like to know if there's anyone who were able to achieve what I could not. I've gone through Wine User Manual so many times trying to figure out what went wrong (why do they talk about how Windows works so much instead of explaining how Wine should be configured?). I really would like to use TextPad with Linux. I don't want to learn how to use another "Editor" (I personally don't understand why Emacs, XEmas, vim, vi, etc. are designed that way, they want their users to show off? What a concept!) I don't even think about running Microsoft Visuall C++ under Linux - I only have only ONE lifetime. Anyone could tell me at least I could use TextPad?
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Guest
Not sure about your requirements but...
Can you use http://www.vmware.com/ under linux?
I think you need to install a fresh copy of windows
once you've set vmware up under linux, the windows
install is then a single big file on the linux filesystem.
Also, I think you can do this the other way around, ie.
install vmware under windows and then set up linux there.
But in any case, vmware needs a pc with good specs
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sr
Can you use http://www.vmware.com/ under linux?
I think you need to install a fresh copy of windows
once you've set vmware up under linux, the windows
install is then a single big file on the linux filesystem.
Also, I think you can do this the other way around, ie.
install vmware under windows and then set up linux there.
But in any case, vmware needs a pc with good specs
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sr
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drxenos
Re: Running TextPad with Wine (under Red Hat 8.0 Linux)
I had Textpad running fine using Redhat 8.0 and wine. The only problem I remember is having setting options (mostly fonts). I got around this by importing my options from the windows registry into the wine registry.
I don't remember any problems in configurating wine, except DON'T use the one that comes with redhat. Download and build the latest version. Not only do you get the latest version, but you get GUI configuration tool (redhat "helps" you by not including it).
Hope this helps.
I don't remember any problems in configurating wine, except DON'T use the one that comes with redhat. Download and build the latest version. Not only do you get the latest version, but you get GUI configuration tool (redhat "helps" you by not including it).
Hope this helps.
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Chris C.
Wine & TextPad
As to Vmware:
Do I want to install Windows again? I think all vmware does is DOS emulation. Do I want to run Windows on Dos emulated terminal?
drxenos:
When you ran TextPad under Linux, were you able to 'Run' any of the codes you wrote?
I have Windows installed on my C drive and another HD was added for Linux. When I tried Wine for the first time, I was able to run TextPad which was on my C drive (still am) but could not do much with it (still can't). That's why I tried to run setup with Wine (the latest one and an old one). But both failed to install TextPad with the same 'ikernel.exe' error. I've been trying to figure out a 'right' way to use Wine. Like... which dlls?.. which Registry options?.. which .ini files or portions of it? I use (would like to use) TextPad to test some simple C or Java codes before I put 'em in my regular projects (I have been doing it for a long time in Windows and I love TextPad for it). I haven't even tried to run Java yet. I tried just 3 lines of C and failed. My Red Hat did not come with Wine (good for me?) and I recently found out about Wine. What I want to know is that "I am I wasting my time?" or "I don't know what I am doing?"
Do I want to install Windows again? I think all vmware does is DOS emulation. Do I want to run Windows on Dos emulated terminal?
drxenos:
When you ran TextPad under Linux, were you able to 'Run' any of the codes you wrote?
I have Windows installed on my C drive and another HD was added for Linux. When I tried Wine for the first time, I was able to run TextPad which was on my C drive (still am) but could not do much with it (still can't). That's why I tried to run setup with Wine (the latest one and an old one). But both failed to install TextPad with the same 'ikernel.exe' error. I've been trying to figure out a 'right' way to use Wine. Like... which dlls?.. which Registry options?.. which .ini files or portions of it? I use (would like to use) TextPad to test some simple C or Java codes before I put 'em in my regular projects (I have been doing it for a long time in Windows and I love TextPad for it). I haven't even tried to run Java yet. I tried just 3 lines of C and failed. My Red Hat did not come with Wine (good for me?) and I recently found out about Wine. What I want to know is that "I am I wasting my time?" or "I don't know what I am doing?"
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Guest
Re: Wine & TextPad
It's a new windows install, inside vmware, under linux.
vmware does windows from linux and the other way around.
I would install vmware under linux, it's a free trial, install win98se
from vmware (or win95, winme, anything light) and give TP a go.
you will quickly find out if your pc it up to this!
vmware does windows from linux and the other way around.
I would install vmware under linux, it's a free trial, install win98se
from vmware (or win95, winme, anything light) and give TP a go.
you will quickly find out if your pc it up to this!
Chris C. wrote:As to Vmware:
Do I want to install Windows again? I think all vmware does is DOS emulation. Do I want to run Windows on Dos emulated terminal?
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drxenos
Re: Wine & TextPad
What do you mean by, "When you ran TextPad under Linux, were you able to 'Run' any of the codes you wrote?"
Do you mean executing user-defined tools from textpad (as in compilers, and such)?
I did not try using tools from TextPad. I was happy just to have a decent editor. I think all unix/linux editors suck big time compared to windows ones like TextPad (and I'm used them *all*, from emacs to vi, nedit, kate, etc.).
Do you mean executing user-defined tools from textpad (as in compilers, and such)?
I did not try using tools from TextPad. I was happy just to have a decent editor. I think all unix/linux editors suck big time compared to windows ones like TextPad (and I'm used them *all*, from emacs to vi, nedit, kate, etc.).
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Chirs C.
Wine or Whine?
Thanks for the replies.
Perhaps I did not make myself clear.
1) I want to be able to 'use' TextPad under Linux as I do under Windows environment, 100% that is.
2) Is Wine capable of providing (1)? If so, how do I configure it?
If not, I guess I will have to go back and forth between Windows and Linux until TextPad is ported to Linux. I just hope that day will come very soon. There is another program I dearly would love to have under Linux (it's called gsnote - a very simple memo pad) but I am not going to get into that.
Perhaps I did not make myself clear.
1) I want to be able to 'use' TextPad under Linux as I do under Windows environment, 100% that is.
2) Is Wine capable of providing (1)? If so, how do I configure it?
If not, I guess I will have to go back and forth between Windows and Linux until TextPad is ported to Linux. I just hope that day will come very soon. There is another program I dearly would love to have under Linux (it's called gsnote - a very simple memo pad) but I am not going to get into that.
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drxenos
Re: Wine or Whine?
No, its not 100%, but I wouldn't base my decision to use it solely on that. If what you are left with is still better than anything Linux has to offer, when why not use it?
The Wine site has list of problems people has run into using Wine with various programs, include Textpad.
The Wine site has list of problems people has run into using Wine with various programs, include Textpad.
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Guest
TextPad under WINE sort of works
I have been able to get TextPad to work using WINE on Redhat linux 8.0. But the document selector was blank - it didn't show the open files.
As WINE+TextPad was running, I saw it kick up hundreds of errors in the shell from which it ran - so it is clearly not stable. It was also quite slow.
I might try Win4lin instead.
Like most people here I love TextPad, and not having a decent replacement on Linux is the only thing holding me back from moving to Linux. I agree the various Linux editors (Emacs, XEmacs, Vim, Joe, etc) all suck terribly, although Kate (on KDE) isn't too bad.
I would love to see a Linux port of TextPad.
Cheers
Sebastian
As WINE+TextPad was running, I saw it kick up hundreds of errors in the shell from which it ran - so it is clearly not stable. It was also quite slow.
I might try Win4lin instead.
Like most people here I love TextPad, and not having a decent replacement on Linux is the only thing holding me back from moving to Linux. I agree the various Linux editors (Emacs, XEmacs, Vim, Joe, etc) all suck terribly, although Kate (on KDE) isn't too bad.
I would love to see a Linux port of TextPad.
Cheers
Sebastian
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Chris C.
I give up.
Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts on Wine subject. I think I've spent (wasted?) enough time to figure out a way to get TextPad working under Linux. I came to a conclusion that Wine does not work period. It might me able to start some Windows programs or run some to a certain degree but but never be able to run apps in ways for which they were desinged. What I found out last few weeks is that Wine is a hacker's dream land. That's all I can say. I don't think there will be any program that could emulate Windows until Mr. Bill Gates changes his mind and open Windows source codes. It's all guessing game when it's done without knowing how the original works. Well, even 'the' original people are having hard time figuring out how their things are working. I am sure you've experienced 'em many times. They call it "blue screen of death?" or something in that fashion. Anyways, I will be re-booting or working on two puters at the same time, which I hate to do. Thanks again.
Kind regards,
Chris
Kind regards,
Chris
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Guest
Another "hacker's land" you could try is cygwin... it lets you run a virtual unix-ish system under windows.
I use cygwin to display x-windows apps locally on a windows machine running from a remote unix machine, to run ssh, and several other things, it seems pretty stable, though it may not support everything it's certainly a lot better than wine that's for sure!
It all depends on what else you wanted to do under linux, as cygwin doesn't quite support everything by default although all the core unix stuff is well supported and runs well (and anything with open source can be supported if you want to hack)... cygwin seems to do a lot better running a virtual unix under windows than wine does windows under linux, and no wonder since linux source code **IS** open...
Dave
I use cygwin to display x-windows apps locally on a windows machine running from a remote unix machine, to run ssh, and several other things, it seems pretty stable, though it may not support everything it's certainly a lot better than wine that's for sure!
It all depends on what else you wanted to do under linux, as cygwin doesn't quite support everything by default although all the core unix stuff is well supported and runs well (and anything with open source can be supported if you want to hack)... cygwin seems to do a lot better running a virtual unix under windows than wine does windows under linux, and no wonder since linux source code **IS** open...
Dave