TextPad 4.6 is now available from the Download page. See What's New for more information. This is a free upgrade for all TextPad 4.x customers.
Happy New Year to all!
Keith MacDonald
Helios Software Solutions
TextPad 4.6 Released
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Stephan
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
Wow!
Thanks so much!
To be honest, I didn't believe in TextPad being updated to heavily during the last months...
Anyway, this is like a little late Xmas gift.
Now, I'd loce to know what made the process take such a long long time!?!
Happy new new year and happy TextPading...
Stephan
Thanks so much!
To be honest, I didn't believe in TextPad being updated to heavily during the last months...
Anyway, this is like a little late Xmas gift.
Now, I'd loce to know what made the process take such a long long time!?!
Happy new new year and happy TextPading...
Stephan
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Jeffrey R. Almasol
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
Happy New Year, Keith.
The installation instructions say that you should first uninstall the previous version and that your preferences will be preserved. When I uninstalled the previous v4.5, all of my preferences (including several document classes, and my TextPad license info) were lost.
I used Add/Remove Programs, and selected to remove the software. I'm running Windows XP Professional SP 1 with all of the latest patches.
Jeff
The installation instructions say that you should first uninstall the previous version and that your preferences will be preserved. When I uninstalled the previous v4.5, all of my preferences (including several document classes, and my TextPad license info) were lost.
I used Add/Remove Programs, and selected to remove the software. I'm running Windows XP Professional SP 1 with all of the latest patches.
Jeff
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Keith MacDonald
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
Jeff,
Your preferences are stored in the registry under the key HKEY_LOCAL_USER/Software/Helios/Textpad 4. InstallShield's uninstall program should only delete registry entries that were created as it installs an application, and none of those entries are in that category. I've never lost any preferences when I have uninstalled TextPad, which has been often during tests, so I don't know why this has happened to you.
This is the only reported instance of this problem, out of several thousand downloaders to date, but if anyone else is worried about it, save your registry entries to a file, using the procedure described in the online help under "How to Customize Settings: Transferring between PCs", before uninstalling.
Keith MacDonald
Helios Software Solutions
Your preferences are stored in the registry under the key HKEY_LOCAL_USER/Software/Helios/Textpad 4. InstallShield's uninstall program should only delete registry entries that were created as it installs an application, and none of those entries are in that category. I've never lost any preferences when I have uninstalled TextPad, which has been often during tests, so I don't know why this has happened to you.
This is the only reported instance of this problem, out of several thousand downloaders to date, but if anyone else is worried about it, save your registry entries to a file, using the procedure described in the online help under "How to Customize Settings: Transferring between PCs", before uninstalling.
Keith MacDonald
Helios Software Solutions
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Jeffrey R. Almasol
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
Keith,
As a test, I just did the following:
1. I uninstalled the v4.6 software and made sure the HCU\Software and HLM\Software branches of the registry did not contain any Helios subbranches, and that the TextPad 4 folder (in D:\Program Files\).
2. Then, I installed the v4.5 software, entered my license code, adjusted some settings, and added a new document class.
3. Then, I used Add/Remove Programs to uninstall the "TextPad" entry, selecting the "Remove" option when it asked if I want to modify, repair, or remove the software.
4. After the v4.5 software was uninstalled, I checked the registry. The Helios branches in HCU\Software and HLM\Software no longer exist, which means my settings are lost.
Can you repro there?
I noticed that if I install v4.6, adjust the same settings, and then uninstall (the Add/Remove Programs entry is "TextPad 4.6", not just "TextPad" as in v4.5), the Helios branches do stay around. Also, the uninstaller panel asking me if I want to modify/repair/remove doesn't appear -- it just automatically uninstalls (removes). Maybe you're not seeing this behavior because of these differences between 4.5 and 4.6?
Jeff
As a test, I just did the following:
1. I uninstalled the v4.6 software and made sure the HCU\Software and HLM\Software branches of the registry did not contain any Helios subbranches, and that the TextPad 4 folder (in D:\Program Files\).
2. Then, I installed the v4.5 software, entered my license code, adjusted some settings, and added a new document class.
3. Then, I used Add/Remove Programs to uninstall the "TextPad" entry, selecting the "Remove" option when it asked if I want to modify, repair, or remove the software.
4. After the v4.5 software was uninstalled, I checked the registry. The Helios branches in HCU\Software and HLM\Software no longer exist, which means my settings are lost.
Can you repro there?
I noticed that if I install v4.6, adjust the same settings, and then uninstall (the Add/Remove Programs entry is "TextPad 4.6", not just "TextPad" as in v4.5), the Helios branches do stay around. Also, the uninstaller panel asking me if I want to modify/repair/remove doesn't appear -- it just automatically uninstalls (removes). Maybe you're not seeing this behavior because of these differences between 4.5 and 4.6?
Jeff
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George Schizas
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
I can confirm that uninstalling 4.5 does remove the HKCU\Software\Helios registry key... Luckily, I exported it first!
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Jon
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
I can also confirm that uninstalling 4.5 removes the registry key and deletes all your settings, including licence information (luckally i have mine saved).
Win 2000 sp3
jon benson
Win 2000 sp3
jon benson
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Keith MacDonald
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
I've also been able to reproduce this behavior on a clean system, so my development system must be different in some way. Thanks for bringing this problem to my attention. I have now deleted the requirement to uninstall previous releases from the download page. Apologies for any inconvenience it may have caused.
Background information: TextPad 4.5 uses InstallShield Professional 6.3, whereas 4.6 uses InstallShield Developer 8. The former uses InstallShield InstallScript, whereas the latter uses Microsoft Installer (MSI), which have entirely different behaviors. The only visible consequence of this is that you end up with two entries for TextPad on Add or Remove Programs, which can uninstall the same set of files. We could have scripted the setup for 4.6, to clean up those entries, but that would have added an extra 700K to each download, and would negate the benefits of using MSI for doing administrative installs.
Keith MacDonald
Helios Software Solutions
Background information: TextPad 4.5 uses InstallShield Professional 6.3, whereas 4.6 uses InstallShield Developer 8. The former uses InstallShield InstallScript, whereas the latter uses Microsoft Installer (MSI), which have entirely different behaviors. The only visible consequence of this is that you end up with two entries for TextPad on Add or Remove Programs, which can uninstall the same set of files. We could have scripted the setup for 4.6, to clean up those entries, but that would have added an extra 700K to each download, and would negate the benefits of using MSI for doing administrative installs.
Keith MacDonald
Helios Software Solutions
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Andreas
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
I simply did NOT uninstall 4.5 before installing 4.6 and have no problems so far...
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Andreas
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
Ok, there is ONE thing I do NOT like about the update:
The new "feature":
Text copied from a page displayed in IE or Mozilla is now pasted into HTML documents with its original HTML tags. It can still be pasted as plain text using Edit/Insert/Paste as Lines.
I'd very much prefer if this feature (which I classify as an annoyance) could be switched off.
Yes, I have read the stuff about Edit/Insert/Paste as Lines. But it is more inefficient to use this than just using Edit/Paste...
The new "feature":
Text copied from a page displayed in IE or Mozilla is now pasted into HTML documents with its original HTML tags. It can still be pasted as plain text using Edit/Insert/Paste as Lines.
I'd very much prefer if this feature (which I classify as an annoyance) could be switched off.
Yes, I have read the stuff about Edit/Insert/Paste as Lines. But it is more inefficient to use this than just using Edit/Paste...
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Jorgen Smith
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
Andreas,
This is an easy one, thanks to Textpad's configurability: Go to Preferences, Keyboard. Select "Edit" category, then scroll down to EditPasteLines. Press new shortcut key: CTRL + V, then assign. Hint: Try assigning it ot CTRL + SHIFT + V instead, now you can do both very easily!
Keith,
Happy New Year, and thanks heaps for bringing out the long awaited update. It's an even more perfect product now!
The option of pasting HTML is a great one. E.g., CTRL + clicking table cell, then CTRL + C in Mozilla will selectively copy that part of the page so that you can paste in Textpad. Very useful! So is the clipboard history, I think this could very well come in handy.
Cheers from down under,
Jørgen
This is an easy one, thanks to Textpad's configurability: Go to Preferences, Keyboard. Select "Edit" category, then scroll down to EditPasteLines. Press new shortcut key: CTRL + V, then assign. Hint: Try assigning it ot CTRL + SHIFT + V instead, now you can do both very easily!
Keith,
Happy New Year, and thanks heaps for bringing out the long awaited update. It's an even more perfect product now!
The option of pasting HTML is a great one. E.g., CTRL + clicking table cell, then CTRL + C in Mozilla will selectively copy that part of the page so that you can paste in Textpad. Very useful! So is the clipboard history, I think this could very well come in handy.
Cheers from down under,
Jørgen
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Andreas
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
Jorgen, I know I could reassign the keys.
But this does not change the behaviour of Edit/Paste menu.
But this does not change the behaviour of Edit/Paste menu.
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Jeff Epstein
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
Kieth, and everyone else Helios,
We have been waiting patiently and not so patiently for a long time, now. Congratulations on this release, and thank you so much for making TextPad better, and keeping it small, efficient and fast.
:' )
Jeffy
http://www.jeffyjeffy.com/textpad
We have been waiting patiently and not so patiently for a long time, now. Congratulations on this release, and thank you so much for making TextPad better, and keeping it small, efficient and fast.
:' )
Jeffy
http://www.jeffyjeffy.com/textpad
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Erland Sommarskog
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
Great to see a new version of TextPad!
But I'm still longing for the ability to Clone a tool! Do you hear me, Keith!
But I'm still longing for the ability to Clone a tool! Do you hear me, Keith!
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jon
Re: TextPad 4.6 Released
I'm more excited about v5 which iirc is a complete .NET rewrite
Thanks for the explination regarding the installer. Its my fault i didnt back up the key anyway Unfortunatly the double icon in add/remove is a problem however i should hopefully never have to be uninstalled!
best
jon benson
Thanks for the explination regarding the installer. Its my fault i didnt back up the key anyway
Unfortunatly the double icon in add/remove is a problem however i should hopefully never have to be uninstalled!best
jon benson