Another Application Has Updated...

[Joel Cox]

Since updating 4.3.2 to 4.4, I get repeated "Another application has updated file <name of current file>. Reload it?" messages when opening files on a network drive. Simply changing the focus to a different application and back to TextPad generates the message. Often the dialog continues to appear no matter how many times I click the "yes" button. Chosing "no" makes it go away, albeit briefly.

This did not happen with earlier versions of TextPad.
No one else is modifying the files in question. I deliberately picked 4-year old text files just to be sure.

Running Windows NT 4 SP6a locally, Netware 4.1x on network.

[Andreas]

Did you play around with the options in Configure/Preferences, File, "When files are modified by another process"?
Maybe setting these differently may help.
Andreas

[Joel Cox]

I could tell it to ignore, but there are times that I want to it notify me and reload. Something is amiss here, because nothing is modifying the files.

[Steve Houts]

I'm having the same problem. I'm running Win2K SP1 and the files live on a Novell server. I don't have the problem with files that live on an AS/400 IFS directory.

The only way to make it go away is to turn on the "Keep files locked while editing them" option. I tried various combinations of the "Ignore differences...less than 2 seconds" and "Check for file size changes" options, but nothing seems to work.

We need a real solution, because the code is obviously broken. Another problem that I've noticed is that if you close a file but leave TextPad open, the file is still locked. Try opening a file in TextPad, then closing it. It doesn't matter whether you make any changes. Then try moving the file to another directory, renaming it, or deleting it. You'll get a share violation. This also needs to be fixed.

[Martin Fabian]

We've had the same problem with MS Visual Studio when keeping the files on our unix-server and communication through Samba. Visual Studio continuously kept saying that the files had been updated and should it be reloaded, even when simply switching between apps. So I don't think this is a problem with Textpad, but with communication over a network (WinNT and unix over samba, in our case).

[Walter Kramer]

This subject has been here before.
17-october the Textpad support people wrote that a solution would be available in the next maintenance release scheduled for a week later (around 24-october I assumed). It appears to have become a very long week.

[moderator]

Hi Walter

The message I think you are reffering to actually said later that week not a week later. The next day TextPad 4.4.0 was released which was the next maintance release. This offers the new options:

"Ignore differences in modification times less than 2 seconds."
and
"Check for file size changes."

If you get spurious notifications that a file has been modified, try changing these settings. (MS Windows caches remote files and the cached copy can get out of sync with some Netware and Unix file systems.)

To access these options click on the Configure menu, select Preferences, select the File page. Make changes and click Ok.

Regards

Heidi-Marie

[Joel Cox]

The configuration options have no effect. Both "Check for file size changes" and "Ignore differences in modification times less than 2 seconds" are turned on. I get the prompt immediately upon opening the file and each time the window is focused.

[moderator]

Hi Joel

Please try selecting just one option at once. e.g.

Checked "Check for file size change"
Not Checked "Ignore differences in Modification"
Click OK.

If that doesn't help please try

Not checked "Check for file size change"
Checked "Ignore differences in Modification"
Click OK.

Does that improve matters?

Regards

Heidi-Marie

[Joel Cox]

It appears that deselecting "Check for file size changes" resolves the problem. Still appears that something is amiss internally, as the file isn't changing in size, but at least this is a workaround.

Thanks for the help.

[Walter Kramer]

Hi Heidi-Marie,

You were right I was the one that mixed up dates. I am sorry about that.

Nevertheless, I am afraid that non of the combinations work for me.

1.) If I safe a file from textpad, then open the file in another application and close it again without any changes and then return to textpad, I will get the "Another Application...." message.

2.) If a file is open under textpad, then open the file in the other application (without save under textpad) close it again and then return to textpad, I will get no message.

3.) If I safe a file from textpad, then switch to explorer, open the file in the other application and close it again without any changes and then return to textpad, I will get no message.

If I use for instance Notepad (which I prefer not to use) I don't have this problem.

Regards,

Walter Kramer

[Erland Sommarskog]

To add some more input to this thread...

With Textpad 4.4.0 I get this message occassionally. I haven't been able to track down a
reproduceable scenario. So far is clear that it happens with files on network drives (regular
Windows network, no Unix or Netware). The clock on my computer is beind the clock
on the file server, which I suspect may have an importance.