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Finally!!! Upgraded from 4.7 to 5.3
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:12 pm
by jeffy
Long time forum users will know me. I've been a huge TextPad fan for years, and was an active member in the forums some years back.
I have tried each upgrade version since 4.7.*, from howEVER many years ago, and have been quite displeased with each one. Blatant instabilities and other problems really shined through, especially in the first 5.* versions. I agree with most that it was a beta disguised as a major release.
5.3 is FINALLY the first version I am comfortable using every day. Have only had a rare crash, and no major behavior from 4.7 seems to be missing.
It honestly doesn't feel like a major upgrade, aside from the much-better use of screen-real-estate (with smoother and more flexible tabbing and with the "pinning" and "auto-hiding" of items like the explorer, command results, clip library), but it is nice that TextPad is finally stable and the awesome program I have always known it to be.
So...THANKS! :' )
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:16 pm
by jeffy
P.S. From the enhancement forum (sorry, I couldn't resist :' )
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Actually, a few items have indeed been implemented. Cool.
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:20 pm
by Bob Hansen
Welcome back Jeffy!
We haven't seen your enhancement request summary in a long while, a familiar looking friend.
I am still using 4.73. But after your brief review, I may be willing to finally give 5.3 a try.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:22 pm
by Britt
I downloaded version 5.3 to look it over. It's still missing the "Word wrap cut-off indicator" (e.g. vertical line in user specified column). Until TextPad gets this basic feature that almost every other editor has, I'll just stick with version 4.7.3.
- Britt
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:30 pm
by Drxenos
Jeffy:
I, too, am still using 4.7.3 until the 5.x line matures. What was your impetus for upgrading? There are any features from 4.x you find missing?
DrX
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:52 am
by ak47wong
You guys are die-hards!
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:26 pm
by Drxenos
ak47wong wrote:You guys are die-hards!
No, I just don't upgrade working tools without a reason. The version I have suits my needs. Unless a new version fixes a bug affecting me, or adds a feature I am interested in, I don't see a reason to perturbation my system.
DrX
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:31 pm
by jeffy
Drxenos wrote:Jeffy:
I, too, am still using 4.7.3 until the 5.x line matures. What was your impetus for upgrading? There are any features from 4.x you find missing?
My impetus? I'm just always interested in trying the new version.
There are a few missing features, but nothing major. The first that comes to mind is you can no longer click the greyed-out "save" button, which in 4.7.* would allow you to "save as".
The new features I see, which aren't much, are the Incremental Find (cool, but not nearly a most-requested feature), and the much better use of screen real estate.
But I've not had more than one crash in quite a lot of usage, and zero strange behavior. Good for me!
Hope that helps :' )
Time To Upgrade?
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:14 pm
by TheSQLGuru
I too am still on 4.7.3, but based on what I see about 5.3.1 I may upgrade as well.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:19 am
by hillsc
I also stuck with 4.7.3 until last Friday (2010-10-29) when I needed to reinstall Textpad on a brand-new Windows 7 installation. Today I think I'm going to switch back.
I wanted to ask what was new in TextPad 5 and what made it a major upgrade. Aside from the fact that it was completely rewritten in .NET, I still don't see what makes this a major version upgrade. I browsed the "What's New" bullet points and saw things like this:
* Improved appearance of checkboxes.
* Help menu commands did not work.
* TextPad adopts appearance of Windows Classic theme.
* Save As button on the toolbar.
* Dockable File Explorer.
Then I compare that to this thread where the OP is happy that 5.x is finally stable after three years. And I browse the forums to see how unicode support is coming. I'm just not seeing the need to upgrade.
Especially after my first ten minutes in the program when I tried to minimize a document and I couldn't! I don't like (and I mean *really* don't like) the one-document-at-a-time-tabbed-interface. I immediately switched back to MDI only to immediately discover I can't minimize documents.
Is it possible to have both TextPad 4 and 5 installed together? Or should I completely remove 5 and go back to 4.7?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:28 am
by hillsc
Answered my own question: TP4 and TP5 are now running side by side without any visible problems (yet).
I forgot to mention my biggest annoyance with TP5: I defined a Perl document class and clicked Use syntax highlighting with the built-in perl.syn file. Doesn't do any syntax highlighting. I'm sure it must be something I'm doing, otherwise the forums would be quite a bit noisier on this topic. But my new TP4 install shows syntax highlighting just fine.
Sticking with 4.7.3. Please don't ever remove the links for it, Helios.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:48 pm
by talleyrand
Syntax highlighting is only applied when a file is first opened or when you explicitly define it on a per file basis via the right-click properties menu. Assigning a syntax file to a class does not affect files already open.
If you were to re-open those perl files in 5.x you would see the syntax highlighting applied
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:11 am
by hillsc
Understood. This isn't my first new document class.
I can't yet rule out pebcak, but I have indeed quit and restarted TP5 and re-opened the files and they still don't highlight. I added *.pl,*pm as my file types, selected the out-of-the-box perl.syn, and nada. Files continue to display in black and white.
Anyway, as I said, I've become quite comfortable with TextPad 4.x over the last decade or more, shortcomings and all. I'll stick with it as long as I can. I just see no compelling need to upgrade to TP5 when it offers no features that I have any particular interest in and actually removes some features, in some respects.