Current problems with 9.3

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lontjr
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Current problems with 9.3

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I'm on a relatively new Win 10 system, converted from Win 8 a few week ago.

Did my best to discover if these issues were already covered. Couldn't find matches to them

TextPad 9.3 appeared to install well.

FIrst problem was the message about files in my workspace "sharing violation" ... set file update ignore, and this pop up went away. I don't think this was my setting in previous versions, but I'm not certain.

Now, files in my workspace do not update automatically, as in previous versions, so I have to remember to File|Revert (Ctl F, R) to bring them up to date. Previous versions, the files just updated on their own.

Then, for an unknown sequence of steps, I will be confronted with a Windows message about "unable to complete task" and the dialogue box offers `. Switch to task, and 2. Retry. Neither of these advance the program. I'm in a hard loop with a modal window and the only way to exit except to end the task via Windows Task Manager

When I do this, I return to my workspace and, while most (not all) of the files are there, they are not arranged as I saw them previously.

I'm learning Notepad++ now, as I see no way TextPad will get back to where I can use it. Don't want to do it, I've been with TextPad for, I don't know, 15 years?
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Re: Current problems with 9.3

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Which anti-virus software do you use? If not Microsoft's, try temporarily disabling it while opening workspaces with auto-reload or prompt modifications set.

If that makes no difference, please describe your environment. E.g.:
Are changes prompted for or auto-reloaded?
How many files are in your workspaces?
Are they local or on a server?
How frequently are they changed by other processes?
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Re: Current problems with 9.3

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Thanks very much for the reply.

Security Suite (provided by my ISP). I turned scanning off, still have to revert the two files.

I run anywhere from 14-20 files in my workspaces. I use an externl program, invoked by the Tools menu, and this writes to a log and and error file. These are the two I have to revert. No other process updates these during this time. The files are local. Source files are local but connected to a cloud (Mega).

The revert is not so bad, when I remember to do it. It will become a habit.

The real worry is this Task Busy windows dialogue. I can't recreate it at will. I'll slow down a bit and try to recover the history of what I was doing at the time. But when I kill it via Task Manager, the ws returns with some files in the workspace, not all, and my vertical windows are gone. Lots of work to get it back to where I need it to work with.

Thanks for any help or workarounds.

/Lon
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Re: Current problems with 9.3

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When TextPad opens files for reading, it locks them for shared reading and writing. Hence, it can read an active log file, or a file being backed up, if the other process has it open in a similar mode. If the file cannot be opened due to a sharing violation, TextPad retries a few times, with a short delay between each attempt. If the option to keep files locked while editing them is set, other processes cannot open the file for writing, so that doesn't apply here.

When you say you still have to revert the two files, do you mean that they are not automatically reloaded when Security Suite is disabled, even though that option is set?

Does Mega provide automatic backup of your files? If so, do the problems persist when Mega is disabled?

Please let me know if you find out how to reproduce the Task Busy issue.
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Re: Current problems with 9.3

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Yes, I have to revert even if the antivirus is turned off. But this was a quick experiment. I might go as far as uninstalling the antivirus, I'm not proud. I'm never sure of the gui of these antivirus apps, who knows what is still running in the background?

It occured to me to check my handling of the log files with respect to the program I'm using (it is a programming language called Rexx). I never had a problem before TP v9, but perhaps now is the time to check on my discipline: did I close the files on exit?

Looking again, the log files are not on Mega, just the source files, so no Mega files are updated as a part of this.

I'd love to have an xml or json mapping of the workspace, or some way to checkpoint it purposefully to restore later. I've looked at the tws file and it's too wild and crazy for me.

Thanks again, I'll reply again if I get some traction on the task busy. It's may be just Windows Bad Hair days. I don't know how you folks can put up with coding for this operating system. But I'm glad you do!

Stop working on Sundays. I'm retired, I have no excuse.

/Lon
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